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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 6:40 pm
The only accomplishment by submitting a letter to the ATF is to verify I have guns and they now have my name and address verified by me...in writing.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:24 am
Believe me redryder... as a former Marine sergeant and retired CW03 in the USCGR...they already have your number...from any legal gun purchase...store credit card receipt for ammo...etc

...just like they do me...a retired DoD employee who had a TS clearance...owns legally bought firearms and filled out the BATFE Forum 4473...bought ammo and verified that he was a citizen of the US on the keypad at Dick's Sporting Goods...who in turn ties that purchase to your name...etc.

Nobody is off the grid...even the homeless guy begging for change downtown. Nobody !!
PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:26 am
House Representative Robert Goodlatte letter to BATFE Director B. Todd Jones... ( 16 page PDF )

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https://dcpr00gbauvhc.cloudfront.net/sh ... -final.pdf

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 2:06 pm
"SHOOTER13 Believe me redryder... as a former Marine sergeant and retired CW03 in the USCGR...they already have your number...from any legal gun purchase...store credit card receipt for ammo...etc"

Yes sir....you are correct. However, they do not have my lettered signature verifying such. Just like many other Federal agencies, the ATF is set to ban and codify These are Obama people. Our input is moot. They do not yield to public concern. Congress is our only hope IMHO
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 3:18 pm
ATF Federal Firearm Regulations Reference Guide 2014... ( 237 page PDF )

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https://www.atf.gov/sites/default/files ... 3-7-15.pdf

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Page 190 ( if you want to see it in Black & White )...

In addition, the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 added to the definition of armor piercing ammunition the following:

"... a full jacketed projectile larger than .22 caliber designed and intended for use in a handgun and whose jacket has a weight of more than 25 percent of the total weight of the projectile."

Exemptions: The following articles are exempted from the definition of armor piercing ammunition:

5.56 mm (.233) SS 109 and M855 Ammunition, identified by a green coating on the projectile tip.

U.S. .30-06 M2AP, identified by a black coating on the projectile tip.
PostPosted: Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:54 am
BREAKING: ATF Will Not Ban Popular M855 AR-15 Ammunition

In a short statement issued March 10, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives backed away from its proposed ban on the sale and manufacture of the popular M855 round used primarily in AR-15 rifles.

The ATF proposed a new method for determining which so-called "armor-piercing" ammunition that could be fired from a pistol should be restricted, and said it had received more than 80,000 comments that were "critical of the framework."

"Although ATF endeavored to create a proposal that reflected a good faith interpretation of the law and balanced the interests of law enforcement, industry, and sportsmen, the vast majority of the comments received to date are critical of the framework, and include issues that deserve further study," the ATF said in a statement. "Accordingly, ATF will not at this time seek to issue a final framework."

The original proposal which was released last month prompted a strong reaction from the shooting public, with most seeing the move as a way for the Obama Administration to regulate gun ownership through executive action after being stymied by Congress. Major news networks covered the story and the National Rifle Association lobbied hard to keep the regulation at bay.

The ATF argues that since the M855 round incorporates some steel in its construction and can be fired from an AR-style pistol, it is in violation of the 1986 Law Enforcement Officer Protection Act which bans pistol rounds that can penetrate soft body armor worn by police. Gun owners argued that all rifle ammunition is technically armor-piercing due to its velocity, and that if the ATF could ban M855, it could eventually ban all rifle ammunition.

The White House sided with the ATF, saying the M855 ban was a "common sense" solution to an emerging threat to law enforcement, but there has so far been no documented case where a police officer was threatened by M855 rounds fired from an AR pistol.

And after a major backlash in Congress, including a letter to the ATF signed by more than 250 lawmakers and a bill introduced in the House to bar the ATF from any future ammo bans, the gun regulating agency relented. "ATF will process the comments received, further evaluate the issues raised therein, and provide additional open and transparent process (for example, through additional proposals and opportunities for comment) before proceeding with any framework," the ATF said.


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http://www.grandviewoutdoors.com/articl ... TEXq2.dpbs


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:46 pm
BREAKING: After Scrapping AR-15 Ammo Ban, ATF Director B. Todd Jones Resigning

“ATF employees are hard-working, dedicated individuals who serve the public to make our nation safer every day,” said Jones. “I have seen firsthand their extraordinary commitment to combatting violent crime, ridding the streets of criminals, and leveraging all available resources to keep our communities safe," Jones said in a statement. “I will truly miss leading and working side-by-side with these men and women in their pursuit of ATF’s unique law enforcement and regulatory mission."

Jones confirmed in a statement sent to ATF employees and agents that he will be returning to the private sector and said he never planned to stay longer than 18 months in the position. His last day at the Bureau will be March 31.

"On March 31, 2015, I will be leaving ATF and Federal government service and returning to the private sector. I am pleased to tell you that Deputy Director Tom Brandon will serve as Acting Director upon my departure.

When I came to ATF in August 2011 to serve as the Acting Director, I only expected to stay about 18 months; I was fortunate to stay more than three years, part of that as a Senate-confirmed Director. During that time, as a result of your efforts, ATF has continued – efficiently and effectively – to protect the public and make a difference in the communities it serves," Jones said.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:42 pm
“ATF employees are hard-working, dedicated individuals who serve the public to make our nation safer every day,” said Jones."

Dedicated to kicking in doors of legal gun shops, harassing gun shows and violating our 2nd. He's probably stepping down because he didn't have his way with the ammo ban.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 7:46 am
It's not over folks!

NRA News: On March 13, 2015, three days after the BATFE rescinded its proposed ammo ban framework regulation, anti-gun U.S. Representative Eliot Engel (D-N.Y.) introduced H.R. 1358, a bill designed to ban civilian use and possession of M855 ammunition.

Seems he's one of those that don't like Mexico as his home, but desires making the USA more like Mexico.

Notice the American flag is displayed on the wrong side of the speaker.
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