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Model 94 sight help?

PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 1:31 pm
by nhetzer
Hey everybody. I'm brand new here and was hoping someone could help me. I don't know a lot about Model 94's, specifically about the various types of sights. So here's what I'm trying to find out:
What rear sight would be correct for an SRC (30-30) made in 1917? If you know please feel free to completely inundate me with detail, and don't be shy about pics either! : ) I've had no luck on any other forums and I'm really hoping the knowledge base here will flood this post. Thank you all in advance!


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Re: Model 94 sight help?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:40 pm
by SHOOTER13
Welcome to the Winchester Owners Forum nhetzer !!

Model 94 sight help?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:14 pm
by nhetzer

Re: Model 94 sight help?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:56 am
by GUNNER_D
I will ask around for you give me a few days. Welcome to the forum nhetzer.

Model 94 sight help?

PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:59 pm
by nhetzer
Thank you gunner_d. I appreciate the response and the help.


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Re: Model 94 sight help?

PostPosted: Thu May 31, 2012 10:24 pm
by Pilgrim
What rear sight would be correct for an SRC (30-30) made in 1917? If you know please feel free to completely inundate me with detail, and don't be shy about pics either! : )


A SRC should have a V-notch rear sight with flip up ladder sight showing (0, 5, 10, etc..)

Here is my 100 year old 1894 Saddle Ring Carbine in .30 WCF (.30-30)

It still fires and functions like the day it was made.

Click the picture(s) for full size:

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Model 94 sight help?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:06 am
by nhetzer
Pilgrim,
Thanks so much for posting! I've been checking back every now and then for awhile and have had no answers until now. Could you post a close up pic of the sight? I've never had to find one before and I want to be SURE I get the right one. They're certainly not cheap and I can't afford to make the mistake of getting the wrong one. GORGEOUS gun by the way! Mine is a "bit" more rough than that!


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Re: Model 94 sight help?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 10:35 am
by JBledsoe
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Hey nhetzer,

Pilgrim is correct, that is the standard carbine sight No. 44. The Three Leaf Express Sight No. 34-B is also common on the 94 Winchester. Any sight in Winchesters inventory at the time could be special ordered on a rifle, that included Tang Sights, Receiver Sights, and a short version of the rifle sight.
I hope that helps.

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Re: Model 94 sight help?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:08 am
by GUNNER_D
I didnt know that

Model 94 sight help?

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 6:28 pm
by nhetzer
Well my issue is that the gun I need a rear sight for is a WWI "spruce gun". I bought one awhile back that had the sight removed and an aftermarket peep sight on it instead. I removed the peep and though I know any "hardcore" collector would turn their nose up at it and read me the riot act on "originality", it's mine and I want to make it as close to right as possible. No repro parts, and it's not for resale so at the end of the day I'll still have no problem sleeping.
So after that bit of explaining, I guess
I'm hoping that someone knows a bit about spruce guns and whether or not the guns used in that contract all used the same sight and more specifically which one it was. I'm familiar with the history of the guns, I have just never been able to track down physical specifics on the sights.


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Re: Model 94 sight help?

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 10:46 pm
by JBledsoe
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I have never seen the specs on the Spruce guns but my original gun has the Carbine sight that I named above as all of the guns that I have seen have had that sight. That is the sight as seen on the gun pictured it the posted by Pilgrim

Re: Model 94 sight help?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:19 pm
by Pilgrim
Could you post a close up pic of the sight? I've never had to find one before and I want to be SURE I get the right one. They're certainly not cheap and I can't afford to make the mistake of getting the wrong one.


Here ya go nhetzer ;) Click any picture for full size:

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Well my issue is that the gun I need a rear sight for is a WWI "spruce gun". I'm hoping that someone knows a bit about spruce guns and whether or not the guns used in that contract all used the same sight and more specifically which one it was. I'm familiar with the history of the guns, I have just never been able to track down physical specifics on the sights.


Here is a picture of a original Rear sight on a WWI 1894 "Spruce gun".

It's exactly the same rear sight as a regular SRC, it just has a small "u" notch instead of a "V".

The "Spruce gun" used a fixed rear sight with flip up ladder.

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Model 94 sight help?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:23 pm
by nhetzer
Awesome! Your pics and info is supremely helpful. I feel much more comfortable now tracking down what I need. I really appreciate the detailed response.


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Re: Model 94 sight help?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:52 pm
by GUNNER_D
Nice 1894 Pilgram

Re: Model 94 sight help?

PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:03 am
by FourFingersofDeath
I have never heard of the 'Spruce Guns' until just now. You learn something every day as my Grandfather always said (he also mostly said 'try and learn something new every day'). I did a search and there is a usefullink here:

http://www.winchestercollector.org/guns/w-mil.shtml

I have several 1892 WInchesters from around that period and most of them have that sort of sight.

Cheers,Mick.