Winchester Model 70 vs. Remington Model 700

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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2011 6:46 pm
This is a thread to debate whether to purchase a Winchester Model 70 or a Remington Model 700. Let the discussion begin.

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Well having owned personally and family-wide more than 50 Winchesters, I have to say not many problems with the guns. Shoot great, very accurate, and depenable. Friend of the Remington 700 have some issues with broken parts in the action itself. Other than that though, they said were good guns. Keep em clean and put ammo through them and most common problems go away.
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I've had trouble with the last few Remingtons I bought (thats why I'm here)...mostly they wouldn't feed but the SPS Tactical in 308 wasn't head spaced properly. Even after 3 trips back to the factory (Ilion, NY) it still wasn't right.

A model 7 stainless (bought it for my son)...wouldn't feed.

700P...wouldn't feed, bolt handle came off in my hand before I even fired it.

The other 2 functioned OK...but wouldn't shoot worth crap, had to be the barrels...I'm no expert, but I'm a pretty decent shot.

With that said...I'd say quality control is one big reason to buy a Winchester.

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Model 70 of course can't complain im happy with my Model70 :D :) ;) :P :mrgreen:
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:22 pm
I have STUDIED gun design for decades and I am not a fan of the 700. They work fine in most instances but to compare the difference would be very time consuming. I would like to do a comparison of the two and post the results. To do this the way I would like to would require quite a bit of time and expense, as I would disassemble every nut, bolt, pin, clip, spring and the bolt itself. I know most by heart but if I did this I would have to buy a 700 just for this purpose. I am retired so maybe?

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 26, 2011 12:22 am
stags30 wrote:This is a thread to debate whether to purchase a Winchester Model 70 or a Remington Model 700. Let the discussion begin.

Hi stags30,
You started this thread last May, what did ya buy?
Also how do you like your new rifle?
How does it shoot?
:)
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I had a few Remingtons M 700 SPS SS 30-06 ( wifes), 300 RUM(mine) & Remington M 700 XHR ( Xtreme Hunting Rifle) 300 Win Mag after I was out in the rain with them & wipe them down after every use I would put them away in there case & when I would take them out the next day there was like a rusty brown powder on the barrels.D'ont like the 2 position safety because the bolt handle would get caught on my clothes sometimes and open.Bolt does not lock when on safe. Stock is halow and flimsy.The floor plate had a gap at the bottom fit & finish not very attractive but shot very good.Now I have the Winchester M 70 Xtreme Weather SS Fit & finish very good everything is tight stable Bell & Carlson stock with alluminum beding free floating barrel,three position safety,flutted barrel, tight floor plate .Just have to take it out to the range and find out how it shoots. I traded my Remington M 700 SPS SS 300 RUM on the Winchester M 70 Xtreme Weather SS 300 Win Mag.
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This is my new Winchester M 70 Xtreme Weather SS 300 Win Mag with Leupold QR bases & rings. Now Just looking for a good Nikon or Bushnell Scope and see how she shoots.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:27 am
Being a Model 70 owner I am completely satisfied with my rifle. I have never owned a 700 but as an old man once told me, never replace an x with a question mark.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:51 am
buckeyevet wrote:Being a Model 70 owner I am completely satisfied with my rifle. I have never owned a 700 but as an old man once told me, never replace an x with a question mark.

I like that saying!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:12 pm
A "Which is better a 70 or 700" question, on a Winchester forum even... :o What's next .45acp vs 9mm :twisted:

I've had a few of both, I still have the Winchesters.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:01 pm
I think this depends on weather we're talking "new model 70's" or "old model 70's." From what I've heard and observed there is quite a difference in the quality between the two. Also, where is the line drawn between old and new, 1964? At any rate I shy'd away from buying one when researching for my newest rifle.

My dad has a 700 in 30-06, and I killed a nice buck with it a few years back, no doubt it's a shooter. I didn't choose the 700 for my new rifle either though just based on price. I've also been told the quality of Remington rifles has gone downhill as well, but I don't know that for a fact. I know a lot of people who have them and never heard a bad thing from them.

It a tough choice really. There is also a substantial difference in the price of these two models. I don't know which I'd go with given a choice between only those two models so I'll let someone else decide :?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:52 pm
I think i will end up buying both of them, but i think i would get the Model 70. first, simply because i love Winchesters!!!!!

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stags30 wrote:I think i will end up buying both of them, but i think i would get the Model 70. first, simply because i love Winchesters!!!!!

Thats what I did :D
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 6:08 pm
I think the model 70 and Rem 700 are two completely different style rifles, I look at the M70 and think of the classic deer rifle with its gorgeous wood finishes. When I look at the Rem 700 I think tactical.

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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 8:57 pm
i believe the winchester is a better quality rifle than most remington rifles. u can find a remington model 700 starting at 399.00 at academy. you cant find a winchester used for that cheap...

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:33 pm
I Have Both a brand new Remington 700 BDL in 270win cal & a Win, 70 Super Grade in 270win i have just rec both of them and have not shot any one of them yet. but i did have a rem, 700 BDL in 30/06cal Many Years ago that shot very nice i like it wish i never sold it but if these shoot as good i will be very happy the win super grade is a super looking rifle hope it shoot as good as it looks!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:56 am
Good choice on the 70....I don't think you can go wrong buying one...

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I own a 70 Safari Express .375 HH : simply the best!! :mrgreen:

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I've owned both Remington and Winchester since 1979, and like them both. I've had Remingtons that were better than some Winchesters and just the opposite.

Lately Remington quality has slipped, back in the 80's Winchester quality was iffy.

I hope both stay around for a long time.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:48 am
I have had two model 70s and one 700 still got the model 70s!!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:54 pm
Owned a few of each, years ago I would have given the edge in accuracy to the Remington but now I think the Winchester holds every measurable advantage over the 700, the 70 has progressed into a superb shooter while Remington is cutting corners. My first 70 was not a real shooter but it was one of the "pumpkin batch" from the 90s, my new 70 shoots just under 1" with factory core-lokts and just over 1/2 MOA with my Speer handloads, only my absolutely scarey accurate T3 6.5x55 shoots tighter, but it does not look of feel half as nice.

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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 7:43 pm
I believe I have a more balanced Model 70 Winchester and Model 700 Remington collection than most have ever had. Winchester Model 70s have held their quality to this present day. In fact I THINK the present Model 70s could be the best 70s they have ever made. The Model 700s I own are up to about 2008. The Model 700s have slipped some as a general rule. Hopefully the Model 700 is still going to have some current rifles that are super. I just have not seen one that I wanted to add to my rifles. I have though even see Model 7 Remington .243 that I just should have bought in about 2010!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 25, 2015 3:28 pm
Late to the party, but:

I purchased my first m70 in November of '14. It is a Super Grade chambered in 338 Win Mag.

I still have the simple, basic, and deadly accurate Rem 700 ADL. Plain synthetic stock, Bass Pro Redhead 3-9x scope (it was a combo) and short 22" bbl in 270 Win. I had this little rifle given to me as a gift by the second owner. It was always very accurate, but after doing my own handloads for it, it really tightened up. 6 rds could just about be covered up with a 50 cent piece at 100yds. This is a little rifle that just plain gets it done but doesn't have the class and beauty of my SG.

Now being that I haven't had the SG very long I have only fired about 20 rds of factory ammo through it. Nothing fancy, Federal Fusion stuff. It shot tight enough to be effective and ethical for hunting but not as tight as the lil 270. However, I fully expect it to improve with my handloads once I figure out what recipe it likes best.

I think that Remington had a better offering for low price point with the basic ADL. It's a no frills little rifle that us capable of very good accuracy. But I do not know if this is still even available any more. As I recall, the original owner bought that rifle/scope combo new from Bass Pro for around $400 OTD. For low price point, I would take that over a 788 or a Savage any day. And I still do take this rifle out at times.

But all in all, I have become very fond of the Winchester 70. There is much to like, and nothing not to like really. Fit and finish is first rate, trigger is excellent (and does not suffer from a fatal design flaw) without opting for another trigger group at an added expense at least for a normal guy who doesn't shoot competitively. A work of art...

At this point my next bolt rifle will be another Winchester..and the one after that.. and the one after that... and the one after that...

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 9:54 am
Have two M700's (30/06 LH and 243 Classic) and two M70's (pre-war 30/06 and new Featherweight 243). There are subtle differences in handling but quality of all of them is very good, would rate them FWT first, Classic second, and Pre-war and LH about equal. Accuracy is excellent from all of them. However it may not be a fair comparison with current Rem 700's as ours are 20 plus years old, and I did replace the 243 trigger with a Timney due to the well known trigger problem. Agree that current quality of M700's seems to have gone down hill from what I have seen on the range. If I were to buy another bolt action I would definitely go with the new M70.
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