Winchester Model 70 vs. Remington Model 700

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:12 pm
A "Which is better a 70 or 700" question, on a Winchester forum even... :o What's next .45acp vs 9mm :twisted:

I've had a few of both, I still have the Winchesters.
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I think this depends on weather we're talking "new model 70's" or "old model 70's." From what I've heard and observed there is quite a difference in the quality between the two. Also, where is the line drawn between old and new, 1964? At any rate I shy'd away from buying one when researching for my newest rifle.

My dad has a 700 in 30-06, and I killed a nice buck with it a few years back, no doubt it's a shooter. I didn't choose the 700 for my new rifle either though just based on price. I've also been told the quality of Remington rifles has gone downhill as well, but I don't know that for a fact. I know a lot of people who have them and never heard a bad thing from them.

It a tough choice really. There is also a substantial difference in the price of these two models. I don't know which I'd go with given a choice between only those two models so I'll let someone else decide :?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:52 pm
I think i will end up buying both of them, but i think i would get the Model 70. first, simply because i love Winchesters!!!!!

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stags30 wrote:I think i will end up buying both of them, but i think i would get the Model 70. first, simply because i love Winchesters!!!!!

Thats what I did :D
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I think the model 70 and Rem 700 are two completely different style rifles, I look at the M70 and think of the classic deer rifle with its gorgeous wood finishes. When I look at the Rem 700 I think tactical.

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i believe the winchester is a better quality rifle than most remington rifles. u can find a remington model 700 starting at 399.00 at academy. you cant find a winchester used for that cheap...

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I Have Both a brand new Remington 700 BDL in 270win cal & a Win, 70 Super Grade in 270win i have just rec both of them and have not shot any one of them yet. but i did have a rem, 700 BDL in 30/06cal Many Years ago that shot very nice i like it wish i never sold it but if these shoot as good i will be very happy the win super grade is a super looking rifle hope it shoot as good as it looks!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 5:56 am
Good choice on the 70....I don't think you can go wrong buying one...

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I own a 70 Safari Express .375 HH : simply the best!! :mrgreen:

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I've owned both Remington and Winchester since 1979, and like them both. I've had Remingtons that were better than some Winchesters and just the opposite.

Lately Remington quality has slipped, back in the 80's Winchester quality was iffy.

I hope both stay around for a long time.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 9:48 am
I have had two model 70s and one 700 still got the model 70s!!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:54 pm
Owned a few of each, years ago I would have given the edge in accuracy to the Remington but now I think the Winchester holds every measurable advantage over the 700, the 70 has progressed into a superb shooter while Remington is cutting corners. My first 70 was not a real shooter but it was one of the "pumpkin batch" from the 90s, my new 70 shoots just under 1" with factory core-lokts and just over 1/2 MOA with my Speer handloads, only my absolutely scarey accurate T3 6.5x55 shoots tighter, but it does not look of feel half as nice.

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I believe I have a more balanced Model 70 Winchester and Model 700 Remington collection than most have ever had. Winchester Model 70s have held their quality to this present day. In fact I THINK the present Model 70s could be the best 70s they have ever made. The Model 700s I own are up to about 2008. The Model 700s have slipped some as a general rule. Hopefully the Model 700 is still going to have some current rifles that are super. I just have not seen one that I wanted to add to my rifles. I have though even see Model 7 Remington .243 that I just should have bought in about 2010!
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Late to the party, but:

I purchased my first m70 in November of '14. It is a Super Grade chambered in 338 Win Mag.

I still have the simple, basic, and deadly accurate Rem 700 ADL. Plain synthetic stock, Bass Pro Redhead 3-9x scope (it was a combo) and short 22" bbl in 270 Win. I had this little rifle given to me as a gift by the second owner. It was always very accurate, but after doing my own handloads for it, it really tightened up. 6 rds could just about be covered up with a 50 cent piece at 100yds. This is a little rifle that just plain gets it done but doesn't have the class and beauty of my SG.

Now being that I haven't had the SG very long I have only fired about 20 rds of factory ammo through it. Nothing fancy, Federal Fusion stuff. It shot tight enough to be effective and ethical for hunting but not as tight as the lil 270. However, I fully expect it to improve with my handloads once I figure out what recipe it likes best.

I think that Remington had a better offering for low price point with the basic ADL. It's a no frills little rifle that us capable of very good accuracy. But I do not know if this is still even available any more. As I recall, the original owner bought that rifle/scope combo new from Bass Pro for around $400 OTD. For low price point, I would take that over a 788 or a Savage any day. And I still do take this rifle out at times.

But all in all, I have become very fond of the Winchester 70. There is much to like, and nothing not to like really. Fit and finish is first rate, trigger is excellent (and does not suffer from a fatal design flaw) without opting for another trigger group at an added expense at least for a normal guy who doesn't shoot competitively. A work of art...

At this point my next bolt rifle will be another Winchester..and the one after that.. and the one after that... and the one after that...

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Have two M700's (30/06 LH and 243 Classic) and two M70's (pre-war 30/06 and new Featherweight 243). There are subtle differences in handling but quality of all of them is very good, would rate them FWT first, Classic second, and Pre-war and LH about equal. Accuracy is excellent from all of them. However it may not be a fair comparison with current Rem 700's as ours are 20 plus years old, and I did replace the 243 trigger with a Timney due to the well known trigger problem. Agree that current quality of M700's seems to have gone down hill from what I have seen on the range. If I were to buy another bolt action I would definitely go with the new M70.

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I own Model 70s built from 1942 to the present. I have owned a dozen. I have hunted with them from 1949.i own two beautiful Model 700s. I bought the first .222 Remington in 1962.It is a superb in .280. Both of those rifles will stay in my collection until Imam off to the Happy Hunting Grounds. Dealers think Model 700s have really slipped in quality. Winchester Model 70s very much the opposite! The present fit and finish is superb! They should bring back the .223 Remington caliber though especially in the Featherweight Model 70! I bet that would generate an amazing amount of sales to veteran shooters!

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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 12:18 am
Take a look at the number of recalls, Remington has had on the 700. Compare it to the recalls on the Mod. 70. Satisfied??
Remington just recovered from going bankrupt...See a problem here??
I would avoid Remington like the plague...

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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2018 7:42 am
Like you, I own both and wont give them up for anything new. The 54 was a workhorse rifle also. So many variations so little money..
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To me the older remingtons were very good rifle not today they seem cheap to me .Now the newer model 70 from FN are very nice rifle and will shoot.I would go model 70 all the way. I have a FWT. in 7mm-08 sweet rifle. JUST MY TWO CENTS WORTH

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I'm going to agree with the consensus that the Remmington rifles have lost their edge. I recently looked at a CDL but my dealer talked me out of it. The model 70 is a better choice I think. I have a featherweight in 30-06 and I love it. My next rifle was almost a Browning White Gold Medalion but it is not in production again until October. Second choice was a Weatherby Mark V Laser Mark in .270 WM but I could not get a delivery date on that and I had to pay in advance. The rifle that I could get was a Model 70 Supergrade in .270 WSM which my dealer said he had no problem getting since production is very stable. The difference between the Win and the Browning is probably going to boil down to barrels. The Winchester is hammer forged and the Browning is button rifled. Both rifles shoot well and their actions, while not comparable to the Weatherby they are clearly smoother and tighter than the Remmington.

That said the 700 Varmints are seeing a lot of popularity in the AR world when guys look to bolt guns to improve accuracy. It's a decent low cost starting point but it needs a lot of work to get to match grade. The initial low cost and availability of high quality aftermarket barrels, triggers, stocks, etc. are what makes it popular.

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:? I’d take a new Model 70 way over the new Model 700s. I still have two beautiful Model 700s. One in .222 from 1962,one in limited edition .280 with the Boyd Black Laminate Stock. Both are incredibly accurate. But a current rifle. The new Model 70s, particularly with the Maple Stocks. Accuracy, pretty, and really tough. I have both the Super Grades and the Featherweights. Shooting all the Winchester’s are excellent. Even my rifle I hunted with in 1949. Still have it. The new Maple Featherweights are one of the most amazing rifles I have ever seen, and at any price!
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I don't own any 70s or 700s. Have read many positive reports toward their handling and accuracy.
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I had a Remington 700 ADL in 7mm Remington Magnum which I got in '62, after adding a Timney trigger a hinged floor plate and a bullet point protector and having the bolt polished and engine turned (jeweled) it shot very well. The stock was very light for walnut so one had to be careful or get "scoped",traded it for a Ruger M77 7X57mm a very good rifle also. Finally I went to M70s and have them from pre-war 36xx to present day,Standard,Featherweight,Super Grade and custom and don't look back,each rifle shoots MOA or better and the workmanship is great and I enjoy them!
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Still have my Model 70 2018 Shot Show Special Dark Maple Featherweight Stainless .243 on order which I placed the first day of the 2018 Shot Show. Looks like it won’t be here until the end of this year or early 2019. Sighting in a Model 70 Ultimate Shadow SS I restocked with Boyd Black Laminate Stock. Beautiful rifle for certain. The Boyd Laminate stock added about a pound, fitted perfectly! I have a Remington 700 Limited Edition .280 that has a Boyd Black Laminate that is beautiful and is incredibly accurate. The recent Remington’s have slipped and the Model 70 new FN is unbelievably perfect!
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Thanks for sharing your appreciation toward the rifles you have. Good looks and accuracy are a pleasing combination.
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