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English Style??

PostPosted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:00 pm
by MMCSRET
I have a M12 that has a straight stock, no pistol grip, OEM. Was this a regular item, a special order, a non cataloged standard item or what? Is there any documentation as to how many were produced in this configuration? Were they produced for a foreign order? I'd like to know more about this.

Re: English Style??

PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 5:44 pm
by SHOOTER13
Sorry, I'm not really familiar with that configuration...can you post some pics ?!

Re: English Style??

PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 6:03 pm
by MMCSRET
Sorry, no camera or the knowhow or motivation to use one. I don't have any one of the several books I have seen on the book shelves here and there. I thought maybe someone else might, oh well.

Re: English Style??

PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:47 pm
by SHOOTER13
Sorry I couldn't help...

Re: English Style??

PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 10:28 pm
by P.Muerrle
Yes they offered straight stocks. They are more unusual than pistol grip but I wouldn't call them rare. There are no exact numbers on hoe many were produced but they do command a premium.

Re: English Style??

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:34 am
by MMCSRET
It is on a really great upland gun. Field grade, plain barrel, 16 Ga. Modified choke, numbered to 1961. My favorite Sharp Tail Grouse gun out here on the prairie and in the wheat fields.

Re: English Style??

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:36 am
by GUNNER_D
No Pictures :twisted:

Re: English Style??

PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:34 pm
by MMCSRET
Nope, no pics, no camera or the inclination to acquire the camera or the know how to use it. Pictures really don't interest me. I do a lot more reading than I do watching television and I haven't been in a movie theater in more than 30 years. I guess i don't need no stinkin' pictures.

Re: English Style??

PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:32 pm
by winmod21
My Black Diamond Trap has a straight stock on it and so does the SxS I shoot upland game with. I kind of like the straight stock, especially for the quick mount and shoot when hunting. Sounds like you have a nice gun, we'll take your word for it even though you won't post no stinkin' pictures! :D Eric

Re: English Style??

PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 8:44 am
by Passages
I know this thread is a year old but I'm new here. This is my M12 in the configuration described by the original poster.

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Re: English Style??

PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 1:26 pm
by SHOOTER13
The Model 12 was designed by T.C. Johnson and was the first slide action hammerless shotgun produced by Winchester. Over 1,900,000 were sold in its 51 year history. A 16 gauge Model 12 is not rare, nor is the stock you describe. Barrel lengths were 26". 28", 30", and 32". What you describe as Field Grade is actually called Standard Grade.

The Model 12 was made in different grades: Standard, Featherweight, Riot Gun, Trench Gun, Skeet Grade, Trap Grade, Pigeon Grade, and Heavy Duck Gun...and barrel lengths. Prices vary greatly depending on how rare that grade was ( amount made ).


Value is subjective...I could tell you what it's worth from a book I own, but that doesn't mean the buyer standing in front of you, or the shop owner who needs to buy and sell for a profit, will be willing to pay that amount.

A Standard Grade 12 gauge in NRA Good condition is worth $600...in NRA Fair condition it is worth $500. For 16 gauge deduct 10% of the price quoted above. For 20 gauge add 20% to the price above.


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Re: English Style??

PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:01 pm
by oooldman
beautiful piece of wood